Children In Restaurants – The Munier Question

This afternoon, my news source of choice, Twitter, reported that Nick Munier (apparently he has a restaurant called Pichet, but most of us know him as the one with the cool glasses on Masterchef) has banned children from his restaurant. Well, children under 2. And after 6, to be precise.

This is a rather unsavoury subject which does nevertheless raise its head every once in a while.  In recent discussions about the issue, one Guardian writer suggested that perhaps soundproofed glassed-off areas are the answer, while John Oserskey of Time magazine ponders whether families should stick to family-friendly restaurants, leaving the expensive grown-up versions to adults.

Needless to say, the lovely varied world of Irish foodies had their comments about this latest installment in the debate, some in support, most not.  It reminded me of something I did a little while ago which admittedly wasn’t my finest hour.

I walked out of a restaurant because the children in it were too noisy.

No, wait, breeeeeeathe…..let me explain.

We’d been up since 6am, locked in stressful meetings most of the day, finally finished at 9pm and needed to talk things through away from the office.  So, mind-numbingly exhausted and running on empty, we swung into a country town Chinese restaurant, hoping for a quiet and quick bite to eat after a long, long (nope, two’s not going to do it), long day.

It wasn’t to be.  The restaurant was completely empty except for a table of seven people, ranging in ages from 6 months to 40 years.

Through the cacophany of noise, it quickly transpired that it was the 7 year old’s birthday, evidenced by his hearty and regular rendition of ‘Happy Birthday’ to himself at five minute intervals. The 6 month old – obviously not a fan of her brother’s singing – contributed her own rather piercing screech to this chorus, leading to the unhappiest of harmonies.  The 5 year old seemingly took umbrage with the 7 year old’s firm grip on the adult’s attention, and proceeded to throw food in a somewhat successful attempt to usurp his position.  Meanwhile a set of twins, aged about 10, engaged the waitress in constant requests for additional sauce / crackers / purple vegetables.  Or perhaps they were just asking the chef directly.  They were certainly loud enough to be heard in the kitchen.

The parents of this brood appeared to be completely oblivious to the din, which is a phenomenon that only appears to occur amongst those in the permanent company of children.

Now before you have a heart attack, I know it’s not the kids’ fault, and I’ve often felt just the same way about a bunch of rowdy adults.

Also, as the eldest of four, I’m hardly new to the idea that children make noise.  In fact, despite the high decibel levels and pungent aromas, I wholeheartedly love children.  Adore them, even.  Honestly, in the child-friendly stakes, I’m up there with Mary Poppins, albeit without the diabetes-inducing spoonful of sugar.

I’m the person on a plane who pities the poor bawling baby and her exasperated parents rather than sending them daggers and tut-tutting into my in-flight magazine.  I’m also the person who calmly steps over the tantrum-throwing toddler in the supermarket, aware that anything short of my best poker face will only encourage the little tyke to continue.  I get it. Kids aren’t easy to manage, and families should be able to enjoy a night out in a restaurant too.

BUT on a very basic level, I wanted a quiet environment in which to talk and unwind, and it wasn’t available, so I left.  It was my problem, not theirs, so I removed myself from the situation, rather than asking them to change their behaviour. Nothing had been ordered, and no drinks poured, so I wasn’t inconveniencing the staff, and we made up an appropriate excuse so as not to make the family feel bad in the unlikely case of them noticing our departure.

So, while I’m not saying I agree with him for one second, before we all pounce on Munier’s child-prohibition stance, do let’s have a think about the the grey amongst the black and white – would you have stayed in the restaurant scene described above?  What would you have done differently? What do you suggest restaurants should do to avoid losing some custom while preserving that of families?

7 Responses to Children In Restaurants – The Munier Question

  1. Gastromama says:

    Oh, I recognise that child above, with her food plastered all over her face. It’s you having fun with food. We took all of you to restaurants but we also had the good sense to pick a restaurant that was family orientated. I did not feel comfortable in a salubrious restaurant hissing at you lot to behave. In general, you all did, but lets face it, your were children. Compromise and I could eat in relative comfort and so could you lot.
    Remember, the one time we took all four of you to a country Manor house for Sunday lunch, fine dining. The staff all knew your Dad and so we were treated with such attention. I was one end of the table and Dad the other, Adam was fighting with Rebecca from across. In his frustration at not being within reach of her neck, he just climbed onto the table and proceeded to wade his way over, through plates, glasses, pinging cutlery to strangle her. Dad and I trying to grab him and prise his little fingers from her. That occasion and his escapade with the table lamp in Westbury Hotel, Dublin (another story) put an end of fine dining for us as a family until all grown up.
    Horses for courses…

    • Gastrogirl says:

      Oh God – that brings back memories, I looked up from my soup to see the little fat legs of a two-year old barrelling down the table, crashing through plates and glasses with a murderous look on his cherubic face! Hah!

      I think you don’t often see children in high-end restaurants for just that reason, it’s not worth the stress on the parents or the fellow guests. Strange how it’s the opposite in France – just what are they feeding their perfectly behaved little ones?! :)

  2. LaytownPops says:

    I suppose it can be a matter of “if they’re my children, then it’s OK” It’s everybody else’s children that are the problem ;-)

    Seriously though, one of the small pleasures left in Ireland today is to go out for lunch, dinner etc. It’s not cheap by any means.

    To have a group,as you so eloquently describe, competing for vocal and aural attention, then it does tend to suck the good out of it.

    My sympathies on this one, I believe your course of action was correct. It was an adult way of dealing with it and shows you did not stand on your ‘rights’ but used your head.

    Don’t like something about the pub / restaurant / coffee shop? Then vote with your feet.

    Oh, while I have your rapt attention here :-)

    What about a recipe for something like Toblerone Cheesecake to break butt on Easter Sunday ?

    Just something I can throw together – in fairness, most of the recipes you show are so easy to put together – thanks,

    LaytownPops

    • Gastrogirl says:

      Thanks @LaytownPops, I agree that when there’s so little money left to spend on luxuries, we’re more circumspect on how / where to spend it, and in this case, with whom!

      Hmmm, Toblerone cheesecake is a great idea, and hopefully one within even my capabilities (I’m useless at baking!). I will add to the ‘to – do’ list and update you as soon as it’s been tested!

      Ps – the boyf will be a very happy man to hear that you’ve suggested I try cheesecake next! ;)

  3. Lena says:

    If it is children misbehaving in a restaurant we can simply walk out like you did. If you are stuck with them in a 12hour flight in economy class, now that’s a challenge!

    • Gastrogirl says:

      Oh jeepers, you’ve a point there Lena, especially when the crew insist on you turning off your Ipod! That can stretch the patience limits to the absolute hilt – I just hope the (hopefully) sunny destination made up for it in the end! ;)

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